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question about Elisa

  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    As there is some tagging activity by the science team in Cool Silence, I would like to ask to look again into Elisa. Her ear damages bother me a lot. There are more videos from her, but here the ones with some clear footage that let me question the overall match. (Parts might be OK, of course.)

    Tag group for Elisa

    In ACP00021n1 - I guessed it was assumed that she is pregnant here - is her left ear damaged with a clear cut, while the right is OK.

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    In ACP0002jmu - also without her infant - the right ear is clearly damaged and the left might be too.

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    In ACP00024y2 - now with a young infant - her left ear looks totally normal and I'm not even sure whether the right is in any way deformed.

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    Maybe to add the time stamp here for ACP0002jmu (as it's hard to see) it's September 12, 2013 11:27:00 according to the spreadsheet. In June she is already seen with an infant.

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  • MimiA by MimiA scientist, moderator

    Hey @AnLand, Paula will be back mid December, please remind her again about this when she is back 😃

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  • MimiA by MimiA scientist, moderator

    I agree with you about that ear damage, doesnt match across videos, good find!

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator

    Hi @Anland, I absolutely agree with you about the ears...I think it´s worth it to have a deep look into Elisa´s collecition. Give me just some time and I will help. Anyway, I would love that Paula checks it as well when she returns. Well done Anja 😃

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator

    hmmm...this is veeeery tricky. These ladie´s ears seem to change constantly 😃
    I have made a table in order to organize my thoughts a bit...maybe it helps us make a decision about Shani and Elisa. Please add, comment, change anything that you like:

    SHANI´S EARS

    VIDEO / RIGHT / LEFT

    ACP00021y8 : damaged? / ?

    ACP00024pm : undamaged / undamaged

    ACP00026g1 (series) : undamaged / undamaged

    ACP00027rd (series) : ? / U-cut on the side/top

    ACP00028ip : undamaged? / undamaged?

    ACP0002a6y : undamaged / undamaged

    ACP0002ano : small cut on top / damaged (seen in ACP0002ann )

    ACP0002j44 (series) : top part missing / ?

    ELISA´S EARS

    VIDEO / RIGHT / LEFT

    ACP00021lt : ? / ? (looks undamaged but unclear)

    ACP00021n1 : undamaged / U-cut on the side/top

    ACP00024pd : undamaged? / ?

    ACP00024ru : undamaged? / ?

    ACP00024y2 : undamaged / undamaged

    ACP00027ly : undamaged / ?

    ACP00027lz : undamaged / undamaged

    ACP0002j3g : damaged ? / ?

    ACP0002jmu : damaged (U-cut top) / damaged

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    Thanks a lot, @NuriaM! That's very helpful. I will sort my thoughts a bit more and post here or in separate thread some ideas.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator

    Shani/Elisa´s videos:

    GROUP 1:

    ACP0002ano : small cut on top / damaged (seen in ACP0002ann )

    ACP0002jmu : damaged (U-cut top) / damaged

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