Ada and Ilo
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by jwmaritime
They spend most of the video with their backs turned to camera, but the older one seems to be left handed when using the tool and is also holding a alternate stone in its left foot. Maybe those can be identifying traits?
The younger one does give us a good look at its face and has a slightly distinctive point on its right ear.
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0002r9mPosted
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by Quia moderator
They hang around the camera for a little while, some nice face shots here!
ACP0002r9l The older juvenile has a grayish face, quite long and narrow.
ACP0002r9m Best shot of the young juvenile's face.
ACP0002r9n The young one is female and still young enough to get carried, mother has a very dark face, small dip in her brow.
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by Giulia_Sirianni scientist in response to jwmaritime's comment.
Hi jwmaritime,
adult chimpanzees, when performing complex manual tasks (e.g. the nut-cracking), are right-handed or left-handed (i.e. some always use the left hand, some always use the right hand) . Therefore, checking which hand they are using when lifting a hammer is definitively a good sign to consider for the individual identification . Of course, all of them can also use both hands to lift the hammer (when the hammer is too big), in this case we do not get much info about the identity of the individual. Different is the situation for the youngsters, since only at about 10 years of age, the individual achieves her/his adult handedness.
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by Giulia_Sirianni scientist in response to jwmaritime's comment.
Unfortunately the video you spotted is not so informative regarding chimps identification, in that he juvenile who is cracking nuts is covered by the tree...try with another one!!
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by jwmaritime
Thanks for the insight! I will keep on looking!
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by starrypawz
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00037o5
Adult (presumed female) using a rock, and a juvenile above her in a tree
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by Quia moderator
Possibly RW Female 02 and her youngest? Not sure...
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by risk
Could it be that the chimp picking up the younger one is male? Or don't the males do that?
I'm asking because the posterior seems to be black. And we do have a dark-faced male with a brow-dimple and grey legs here: http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000d/discussions/DCP00001fm
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by lauraklynn moderator
Are these guys new?
video ACP0003dz5
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by kamadden in response to lauraklynn's comment.
Video links up to ACP0003dz2, ACP0003dz3,and ACP0003dz4
Lots of great shots of both female and juvenile.
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by kamadden
The brow line of the female looks similar to that of RWFemale03, and the youth seems to have a similar "devil may care" attitude and ear shape as the one in video ACP0002r9n.
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by Miss_M
Is this RWJuv04? http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0002qj1.
Seems to be similarities between that video and this one. Image ACP0002r9lPosted
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by Boleyn moderator
new #chimp ? and an infant. Unknown place so far. lots of grey hair already. Father or mother?
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by AnLand moderator
Pretty sure, it's the mother. Look at her nippels: ACP0003dz4 !
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by Quia moderator
I think these may be a match?
2014/03/11 11:23
ACP00037nq ACP00037nr ACP00037ns ACP00037nt
I also wonder if this are both RWFem07? We've only seen her in the night cameras, which I think are infrared, so the uniform white-gray of her head could match up with the balding patterns... She has a very angular face, almost triangular.
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by vestigial
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00037nz
She has the bald head and the white hair on her legs and back. Small infant joins her. She looks like she is settling down to do some nut cracking so there are probably other videos in this same sequence.
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by NuriaM scientist, moderator
Hi @vestigial,
I have had a look and to me they look very alike. Let us check it with other mods and users...😉Posted
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Hi all
yes, totally agree, they are RWFem03 and RWInf03,
so we have them in these video series:http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00037nz ( ACP00037nq ACP00037nr ACP00037ns ACP00037nt)
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0003dz2
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0002r9n
Great job!! let's give them a name (please keep in mind the names that have been already used http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000i/discussions/DCP00001dp) Thanks a lot 😃
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Hi @vestigial I have merged your thread with this because we are talking about the same chimps.
Well seen, they are RWFem03 and RWInf03!Posted
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
hi @Boleyn
I can' t see your video...
@AnLand we just see and identify these two chimps, they are RWFem03 and RWInf03. Look this thread
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000h/discussions/DCP00001xoPosted
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by AnLand moderator
This was @Boleyn 's video sequence (he commented on): ACP0003dz3
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Thanks a lot @AnLand, perfect. Yes they are RWFem03 and RWInf03. As soon as we have names for them we will tag all these videos with their names. 😃
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
I am going to merge this thread with this one ( http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000h/discussions/DCP00001xo) and there we can continue talking about them.
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by AnLand moderator
Thanks for the merging. I was going to propose that in the next minute. Names: I vote for Ada. If the infant is a girl: Ilene.
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
my bet is male (but i am not sure), but we can use a "neutral" name, just in case 😃
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by AnLand moderator
I do not have a good neutral idea. Robin? (In German names are always clearly male or female I think.)
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by vestigial
http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00037nr
In this video I think you can see tiny dangling bits on the juvenile so I think male may be correct. 😎
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by AnLand moderator
Yes, I see. Boys ... Thanks, @vestigial
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
jejejeje, no neutral names then...we need a male name! 😃
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by vestigial
How about Ilo for the juvenile? It's close to Ilene. Supposed to mean joyous and the little guy seems pretty happy.
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by AnLand moderator
Sounds great!
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Done, Ala and Ilo. Thanks you all!!
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by AnLand moderator in response to PauDG's comment.
If it's not too late: ADA (please!!!)
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Sure! sorry, it was my fault. Feel free to tag the videos with their names ;D
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by AnLand moderator
Thank you so much.
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by vestigial
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Yes they are! previously called RWFemale 03 and RWinf03, (Ada anf Ilo). And already tagged, perfect!! Thanks a lot and very good job
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Hi all,
I open this thread to join here all we've been talking about Ada and Ilo.Posted
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Hi all,
I am going to merge this thread with the thread called Ada and Ilo, to have together everything we have talked about them.Posted
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Hi all, I am going to merge this thread with the thread called Ada and Ilo, to have together everything we have talked about them.
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by AnLand moderator
I really think that these are too Ada and Ilo and this discussion should be merged here: http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000h/discussions/DCP00002aj.
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Is RWInf03, Ilo 😉
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
We have identified the younger, is Ilo, and Ada the one who picks up Ilo.
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by AnLand moderator
Looks like Ada with Ilo on her back ACP0003by6
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Good view AnLand, I can see Ada's face, totally!
Great, thanks!Posted