Chimp & See Talk

New chimp video

  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    ACP0004egy and ACP0004egz

    Older juvenile (seen with an adult female (only back view)). Round brows, big and regular ears, darker eye area. Relatively flat nostrils.

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    (possible match to MF7Juv28?)

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  • jwidness by jwidness moderator

    Yay some new footage, thanks @AnLand 😃

    I like the match to MF7Juv28, and I think if we take that to its logical conclusion (MF7Juv28's mom appears to be MF7Fem34 and MF7Fem34 is a suggested match to MF7Fem13 (per @AnLand)), perhaps this is a family of this juvenile/MF7Juv28/MF7Juv09 and this female/MF7Fem34/MF7Fem13? I know people already discussed whether Fem13 is actually Juv09's mom and thought not, so I'm not officially suggesting this as a match (especially since this female is only seen from behind), it's just something I'm thinking about since I do see physical similarities. The juveniles all have LOTS of facial wrinkles, dark mask area, big round ears, and the left ear has a slight bend to it in the middle -- plus the same slightly open mouth expression. The females are robust, very dark faces, grey lower back. Anyway, that's my first impression 😃

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    Just a very preliminary thought: what do you think about a match to MF7Juv16 (and maybe also to MF7Juv18). I see the same big regular ears and flat nostrils. I suggested earlier to match both of them to Jane, but her ears seem to be still bigger and higher on the head, the brow straighter and the nostrils more narrow. I need to think a bit more about this. (MF7Juv18 is also seen with a gray-backed adult female. But that's all one can say about this. MF7Juv16 is with somebody (tool usage off camera hearable), but no one is seen.)

    MF7Juv16, face best seen here: ACP0003szk

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    I think, MF7Juv09 is younger, the face darker and the hair is hanging more on his/her ears. I would not match him/her.

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    (I learned in the paper that @MimiA posted yesterday that females (and their offspring) have often a core area for foraging. I might be biased by this thought as three of the scenes (this new one, MF7Juv18, and MF7Juv28) are exactly at the same place.)

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator

    #MF7Juv29

    he certainly looks very similar to Juv28 and Juv16 to me, although in Juv28 and Juv16 I can see a slightly depigmented area under the right eye which I don´t see in Juv29

    MF7Juv28:

    one

    MF7Juv16:

    one

    MF7Juv29:

    one

    About Juv09, I agree with @AnLand, s/he looks a bit younger to me.

    What do you think?

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