Older female? -- Esme

• by Snorticus

  ACP0005eer Older? The speed and blurriness block details, but is this a female? #chimp with lots of grey in the face, light colored rounded eyebrows, light muzzle, somewhat stocky, grey at least half the back, rather stooped posture. Looks like has a swelling in the video?

  

  Posted July 21, 2015 5:01 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  I'll add she's first seen in ACP0005eeq, and if that strange gait is permanent, that could be a big help to matching her in the future 😃

  Posted July 21, 2015 5:05 PM

• by Snorticus in response to jwidness's comment.

  Thanks @jwidness for adding that - it's nice to start from scratch seeing the chimps from one area and getting to know them gradually rather than looking at the complicated lists of past convos about so many chimps at once.

  Posted July 22, 2015 4:00 AM

• by PauDG scientist, moderator

  Hi all,
  we can call for now this female CDFem03.
  Thanks a lot!

  Posted July 22, 2015 9:54 AM

• by jwidness moderator

  Maybe not good enough for an ID, but don't you think the female in ACP0005d0g has the same funny walk?

  Posted July 22, 2015 2:22 PM

• by PauDG scientist, moderator

  Yes, I agree.
  Also they have very similar size... but you know, it not enough to do the match. But very well seen! 😉

  Posted July 23, 2015 12:00 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  I think this is her again: ACP0004vb2
  
  
  
  Lots of grey on the face, light grey ear, white beard, grey lower back, swelling looks the same -- mostly dark with a small pink area, same awkward gait.

  Posted July 25, 2015 1:52 AM

• by jwidness moderator

  Here she is again in ACP00054te (I followed @AnLand's previous video to find it):
  
  
  
  Grey face, white beard, grey back, stooped posture with awkward gait.

  Posted July 25, 2015 3:57 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  And again in ACP0005fh6:
  
  
  
  For easy comparison, I'm suggesting a match of:
  
  ACP0005eeq and ACP0005eer (CDFem03)
  
  ACP0005d0g (difficult to see, somewhat questionable)
  
  ACP0004vb2 and ACP0004vb3 (earlier in this thread)
  
  ACP00054td and ACP00054te (earlier in this thread)
  
  ACP0005fh6 (this post)
  

  and I'm additionally considering this chimp with the clearly damaged left ear:
  
  ACP0004vb9 ( http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000k/discussions/DCP00009bq)
  
  ACP0004zr0 (chimp #6 in line, http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000k/discussions/DCP00009bq)

  edit: with @AnLand's video below ( ACP00054f3), I'm definitely suggesting all of these are a match
  
  2nd edit: I think perhaps she's also the 2nd individual in ACP0005czx and ACP0005czy, but probably not good enough for a definite ID
  
  3rd edit: she's the last in line in this video: ACP0005ecf (found by @Snorticus)

  Posted July 25, 2015 4:46 PM

• by AnLand moderator in response to jwidness's comment.

  By the way, here is an extremely good video of the lady with damaged ear. Yes, female. Yes, two feet. I will cross-post this to the other thread as well. ACP00054f3

  

  Posted July 25, 2015 5:01 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  Yes! The missing link! My match proposal is all of the above plus this new video -- thanks @AnLand!

  Posted July 25, 2015 5:09 PM

• by Snorticus in response to jwidness's comment.

  Her stooped posture that you pointed out in ACP00054te is so much clearer in the daylight of ACP00054te, and a great look at her face and ear and swelling in ACP00054f3 nice work, you guys!

  Posted July 25, 2015 11:31 PM

• by PauDG scientist, moderator

  great team job!!!!

  who want to propose a name? thanks 😉

  But I still having doubts about these videos

  • ACP0005d0g (I can not see well the ear),
  • ACP0004vb2 (very quick) and
  • ACP0005fh6 (is also old, but the features look different to me)

  What do you think?

  Posted July 27, 2015 9:31 AM

• by jwidness moderator

  As I haven't yet named any Crimson Dew chimps, I'd like to propose a name for this lady. Is that ok with everyone?

  Posted July 27, 2015 1:03 PM

• by Snorticus in response to jwidness's comment.

  That is fine with me.

  Posted July 27, 2015 3:36 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  Here she is again: ACP0005ecr (just her hand) and ACP0005ecs

  Posted July 27, 2015 4:55 PM

• by Snorticus

  My, she looks pretty weary for 10 o'clock in the morning, poor old gal.

  Posted July 27, 2015 5:24 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  Ok, unless anyone objects, I'd like to suggest Esme for this older lady 😃

  Posted July 27, 2015 5:26 PM

• by AnLand moderator in response to jwidness's comment.

  Esme is wonderful! Thank you!

  Posted July 27, 2015 5:28 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  Ok, here's the current list, I can tag the approved videos with #Esme, and note the others in the spreadsheet for now. Maybe @PaulDG can double-check me before I do that?
  

  Approved:
  
  ACP0005eeq and ACP0005eer
  
  ACP00054td and ACP00054te
  
  ACP0004vb9
  
  ACP0004zr0 (chimp #6 in line)
  
  ACP00054f3
  
  ACP0005czx and ACP0005czy (2nd chimp)
  
  ACP0005ecf (last chimp)
  

  Proposed:
  
  ACP0005ecr (just her hand) and ACP0005ecs new today!!
  
  ACP0005d0g
  
  ACP0004vb2 and ACP0004vb3
  
  ACP0005fh6

  Posted July 27, 2015 5:47 PM

• by Snorticus in response to jwidness's comment.

  Love these lists that are so helpful that you work so hard on! Do you ever sleep, @jwidness? 😉

  Posted July 27, 2015 5:56 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  One more -- I think this is her again: ACP00057ih

  Posted July 28, 2015 9:02 AM

• by jwidness moderator

  I believe this is the up to date list of proposed, but not confirmed videos of Esme:
  
  ACP0004vb2
  
  ACP0004vb3
  
  ACP0005d0g
  
  ACP0005fh6
  
  ACP00057ih
  

  Addressing the concern with ACP0005fh6, I do agree that the features look different, but I think it's just the light and the angle that's distorting them. I still feel that it's Esme.

  Posted July 28, 2015 10:54 PM

• by PauDG scientist, moderator

  I still thinking of these videos...

  Posted July 30, 2015 8:17 AM

• by jwidness moderator

  No problem, they can wait 😃

  Posted July 30, 2015 12:50 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  I feel quite confident this is her (second chimp) ACP00052i9. Also in ACP00052ia, ACP00052ib. If you disagree, feel free to delete my tags. Since @wewa pointed out that it was not so clear, in the future I'll just post ones like this here for you to review first. Sorry!

  Posted July 30, 2015 1:24 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  Found by @Boleyn ACP0004v6u, I'm confident this is also Esme

  Posted July 30, 2015 7:10 PM

• by PauDG scientist, moderator

  Hi all,
  after watch the videos several more times I feel quite sure that the chimp in this videos is Esme:

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0004vb3

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0004vb2

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00052i9

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00052ia

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00052ib

  But I am not sure about these. I totally understand why you think that it could be, but with these images. is difficult to be sure

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP00057ih

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0005fh6

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0005d0g

  http://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/subjects/ACP0004v6u

  Posted July 31, 2015 2:18 PM

• by jwidness moderator

  ACP0004zog is Esme -- thin with a tiny swelling and no infant

  

  Posted November 11, 2016 5:37 AM