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Match proposal female with small infant ACP000g4bx and ACP000emh5

  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    I propose a match between the females from ACP000g4bx and ACP000emh5. She has a young infant (carried ventrally in September 2014 and dorsally in February 2015). She has a very round head, but actually not a broad face. Her right nostrils is somehow prominent. She has a bit of a gray beard. Her brows are rather straight and very uneven, especially on the right. There might even be a scar. Also, on the pronounced balding is quite some uneveness. I cannot see whether these are also scar or something more natural.

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    I think that we see her and her goofy baby also in ACP000gg45 - round head with rather narrow face and brows, beard, and especially the lighter area around the eyes that we also see as some pinkish coloration in ACP000g4bx. I think she is traveling with an older kid, but cannot say so much more about that.

    In ACP000gg45 / ACP000gg47 walking next to her seem to be Makena and her infant (here nursing), but I cannot see her right ear really good. Makena seems to walk often with a rather big (male?) juvenile.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

    Agreed!! 😄

    The shape of her right brow is decisive in my opinion. The infants fit as well. Female´s baldness fit..

    I´m not sure about Makena, I don´t get to see her so distinctive damaged right ear.

    I think we have a new match here: ACP000g4bx (AVFem12), ACP000emh5 (AVFem13) and ACP000gg45 (AVFem14).

    is there anyone who wouldn´t agree?

    THANKS @AnLand (bist die Beste 😃 ).

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    I think - only based on the infant - that we see the same female in ACP000esic, too. The infant has a lot of fluffy hair, very uneven brows, and big nostrils. Body size is consistent. (Here we can also see that it is a girl.)

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    (Full disclosure: I did not really look into other infants here for comparison. I just post that here for discussion.)

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

    There hasn´t been much movement in this thread, but still I really support this match.

    I´m not that sure about your last proposal ( ACP000esic ); at first I thought that the infant looks like Etta´s ( AVInf04 ).

    So if no one rejects, I would say that we have another match here: AVFem12, AVFem13, AVFem14 😃

    I need to check this last video more in depth...

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

    Well, we should discuss this, of course. I think Etta's infant has not these crumbly eyebrows, less fluffy hair, and is in general already bigger. Compare the size in ACP000e41h. Looks at least bigger to me.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

    yes, you are right about the sizes. I just wanted to discard our listed infants 😕

    the infants right brows fit as well. Although we can´t see the new female´s face, I get to see that her ears are round also. I think we are talking about the same couple here 😃

    thanks @AnLand!

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    No rejection from my side, I think the match is quite clear between 12/13/14 - thanks to the irregularity of her right brow and to that lovely infant 😃

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    Just stumbled over this video with a couple that looks very much like our new match above: ACP000ef7d ACP000ef7f ACP000ef7i

    The little one has the same cute looks and the swelling of the female seems to be very similar as well. Still is a bit poor but the video quality quite good.

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    So, I would like to name AVFem12 + 13 + 14: Taiga. Thank you so much!

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

    Lovely name!

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

    Thanks @AnLand, the name Taiga means a lot to me; it brings me beautiful memories on my time living in Finland 😃

    so AVFem12, AVFem13 and AVFem14 are Taiga and infant.

    as for the other videos where we only see the infant´s face ( ACP000esic and ACP000ef7d ACP000ef7f ACP000ef7i ), I need more opinions. I see many similarities, and the females rears looks very much alike too, but @Boleyn, I see the infant´s brows in your proposed videos sort of straighter but it might be as well be an effect of the movement, what do you think?

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

    It happens often in the videos that eyebrows appear to be straight because of the movement. If you have a look at still 4 the brows are bent and the cutie looks a lot like Taiga's infant in your composition at the very right 😃

    I think the swelling is very unique because of the skin fold at the left side.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

    agreed 😃 THANK YOU!!!!

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    The swelling of the first female in ACP000emjk looks also like Taiga's. The skin folds obviously are on both sides of the swelling. Size and looks of her infant are also consistent. Rest of the series: ACP000emjl ACP000emjm

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    Fun-fact: The little one stands up on her back in Edit: ACP000emjm (k was wrong of course) 😄

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    Further on in Clip ACP000gnpq No 3 I think is also Taiga. Again the swelling with the skin fold and her funny infant looking at the camera upside down:

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    I made a screenshot for a better view of the wrinkles:

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    Obviously the little one likes to ride standing on her back.

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    I agree for ACP000emjk etc. I actually had here first the idea, but thought that the other one is way more convincing to get @NuriaM on board. 😉 Need to look into the other proposal later ...

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator

    I´m on board 😃 .

    I usually find hard to claim matches from rears, but Taiga´s swelling is quite distinctive. AGREED

    thanks!!

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