Chimp & See Talk

Lya--Large swelling female

  • Snorticus by Snorticus

    I am not really proposing a match here. I know hind quarters & especially female hind quarters are tricky. I just want to take note of these females as they seem to have a distinctive and unusually large and floppy swelling & light lower backs. You all know the females better than I do. Do we have a fem who has this characteristic? Neither of these females seems to be around an offspring from the little I can see. Better seen in the clip.

    ACP000ekkj - back view only, far right

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    ACP000esic - Another female with a large swelling, possibly similar but just not full swelling?

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  • Snorticus by Snorticus

    ACP000ekkh - First female, side view, far right

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    I did not look in any detail in this, but I also think that this is Lya. She has a really big swelling (swollen or not) and is not seen with a dependent offspring. Eleanor and Sabirah are younger and have only a small swelling (without cycling, I think).

    There seems to be one other young female with a small swelling (and sometimes actually lightly swollen), but I did not work this out. And this "other one" might be Eleanor.

    But I am pretty sure about Lya as the only one with such a large swelling area and heavily swollen back.

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  • Snorticus by Snorticus

    Ahh yes, now I see that Lya has this characteristic. Thanks Anja.

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  • PauDG by PauDG scientist, moderator

    this is awesome!, I agree, it is Lya 😉

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  • Snorticus by Snorticus in response to PauDG's comment.

    ACP000ekkh and ACP000ekkj interesting that she pauses as if to see if Baron might be interested in her swelling but he doesn't respond to her at all.

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  • PauDG by PauDG scientist, moderator

    hahah. There are 4 more videos from this sequence (ACP000ekm7, ACP000ekm9, ACP000ekmb, ACP000ekmd). I guess the male in the first video is Baron, going after Lya 😉

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

    LOL maybe Baron just needs some rest 😉

    The other two males following in the videos Paula mentioned above seem to be very interested though! I don't know how the hacking order is at this place but Baron seems to get some competition here.

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  • vestigial by vestigial

    I'm not sure if this area is like the ischial callosities on Sulawesi macaques but we were told that as those swell and retract over time they become more wrinkly and floppy. Gravity is not a friend of the ladies! 😉

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  • PauDG by PauDG scientist, moderator

    LOL

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  • PauDG by PauDG scientist, moderator

    I think this could be also Lya

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    Terrible still images, better watch the video 😃

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    Yes, looks like Lya's swelling (if we already found all females at this site).

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    I agree on Lya. Body size, typical swelling, no infant around...

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  • PauDG by PauDG scientist, moderator

    great, thanks!

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator

    ACP000f8y9 - might be Lya again. Not much seen, but large swelling and no offspring around. Image not really worth posting.

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  • PauDG by PauDG scientist, moderator

    yes, look's like. And not juvenile/infant around, dark back...

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