AVMale12--Caruso or Magnus?
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by puddock
This series of clips has a reasonably good view of the male chimp. He looks familiar to me but I can't match him up with any of our known males - anyone got any ideas? Don't think it's Filou. Would love it to be Caruso cos he's my favourite...
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by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to puddock's comment.
hi @puddock,
I have moved your discussion here 😃
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by puddock
Thanks @NuriaM - I should know better by now!
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by Boleyn moderator
Hi @puddock
Nice find! I have an idea but let's wait until the rest of the series has been detected and then we take it from there 😃
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
This is the previous one 😉
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by Boleyn moderator
And here's the one after ACP000g14h
Wanna give it a try @puddock? happy hunting! 😃
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by puddock
Will give it a go!
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by puddock
Looking at the new videos and comparing them with known Caruso clips, I would say it could be him - the colouring looks right, the curve of the brows ...and the behaviour looks right, in particular his watchfulness. On the rare occasions that we see him walking rather than eating (!) he seems to be somewhat gentler and less confident - less of a swagger than some of the other males. I wonder whether he's a relatively senior (ie older) member of the clan...I look forward to seeing everyone else's comments!
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Great puddock,
you could be right, but I personally have problems to distinguish sometimes Caruso and Magnus, specially when they are a bit far and the notch in the Caruso's right ear is not well visible.
As happened to me before with these two, I find Caruso more fluffy than Magnus (I know, not very scientific), but both are very similar. Similar size, body shape, color....
This guy in ACP000g14h (added as AVMale12 in the chimp list):
Magnus in ACP000fttq
Caruso in ACP000fttq
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by Boleyn moderator
Again a tricky one and I couldn't make up my mind yet.
The baldness looks more like Caruso's than Magnus because it seems to be only narrow. Also the brows seem to be quite narrow so that would exclude Magnus as well which has quite wide brows.The shape of the face/head seems to be smaller and longer than Caruso's and I don't see any greyish hair on his back. Which again let's me think of Baron.
In still 4 we might see a notch in his right ear which would again be consistent with Caruso but the quality is rather bad so I wouldn't bet on it:
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
while looking to an other video (that I will post right after this comment), I have been watching again the videos from Caruso and Magnus, and I think that AVMale12's baldness fits better with Magnus. 😕
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
And here the new one, with a nice selfie
What do you think, Caruso or Magnus? here I don't see a big baldness, maybe Caruso?
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
To compare
Caruso: ACP000e361
Magnus ACP000fm0l
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by Boleyn moderator
I'd vote for Caruso in ACP000fqmk 😃 the more narrow brows and almost no balding. Also the back color is more greyish. Magnus is all black.
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Thanks Heidi!
What do you think about AVMale12? Magnus or Caruso
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by Boleyn moderator
Hi Paula, I'm still not sure about that male. Please see my comment on page 1 of this thread at the bottom. I could even go for Baron at some point... 😕
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
ah right! Then he will still being AVMale12
thanks 😉
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by JoanaPereira
Hi,
I would agree that AVMale12 looks more with Magnus, the baldness is very identical.
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by PauDG scientist, moderator
Thanks Joana!
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