**Cassini: another injured chimp

• by AnLand moderator

  This male chimp on the log seems to have a hand injury too. See the strangely turned hand in the second screenshot. I think that this is a different injured chimp to the one I posted earlier today here. He is relatively lean with a grayish face and a lighter muzzle. Straight brows. Right ear seems to be OK. Slightly grayish back.

  

  

  Posted August 17, 2017 8:15 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Thanks!

  #GSMale03 (injured) and #GSMale04

  Posted August 18, 2017 10:04 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I think in ACP000drk9 (found by @tjilptjilp) and ACP000drkc (found by @Orohena) (both from the same minute), we do see GSMale03 again. The right hand is strangely twisted, the right ear undamaged, brows rather straight, and he has a light muzzle. According to the time stamps in the spreadsheet, this sequence is several hours later, but on the same day.

  

  I have also seen that there is a second video ACP000dsg3 from around the same time (the noon sequence), also found by @Orohena - where I am sure that this is the same guy. Hand is twisted and face view agrees.

  

  At the moment it is unclear whether this is a long, continuous sequence. All videos from the same day and place, but hours apart and - as indicated by the minute count - more recorded videos in between.

  Posted September 3, 2017 4:16 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  Thanks @AnLand, I agree with you that he is #GSMale03. It seems to me that they´re all part of the same sequence...

  ACP000dsn2 28-Dec-2012 6:49

  ACP000dsg3 28-Dec-2012 12:54

  ACP000drk9 28-Dec-2012 13:00

  ACP000drkc 28-Dec-2012 13:00

  let´s wait for more videos to come. Tagged 😃

  Posted September 4, 2017 9:10 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000drzj - this is #GSMale03 again with his light muzzle and strangely turned hand. I cannot see (no time stamp) whether it is part of the known sequence, but it looks like it.

  Posted September 10, 2017 9:45 PM

• by AnLand moderator

  It seems that ACP000ds1a and ACP000dsf6 also belong into that midday sequence of #GSMale03.

  Posted September 10, 2017 10:05 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Thanks Anja, tagged

  the sequence time gap is filling out 😃

  Posted September 11, 2017 7:18 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  Another minute: ACP000dsq9 etc.

  Posted September 13, 2017 6:05 AM

• by Snorticus

  @Dustwolf found ACP000drkb of GSMale03 sequence which clearly shows (at 2 sec mark) how his right hand flops from the wrist. He is unable to straighten it. He has rather dense black fur, handsome guy.

  Posted September 14, 2017 1:06 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  Thanks!

  Posted September 14, 2017 8:35 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I guess, I found him again (on a different day!): ACP000droh Sitting in the back with a lighter muzzle, injured hand ... What do you think?

  

  Posted September 14, 2017 6:00 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Yes!!!! you found him again, and we have finally a match!

  will you give us a name for him?

  thanks @AnLand !!

  Posted September 15, 2017 6:28 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  Great, thank you! Let's name him Cassini - because I spent today watching the "Grand Finale". 😃

  Posted September 15, 2017 4:13 PM

• by Snorticus in response to AnLand's comment.

  I think Cassini is perfect, @AnLand Poor fella's hand is quite floppy here 😦

  Posted September 15, 2017 6:59 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Thanks @AnLand!!

  Posted September 18, 2017 6:26 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I am thinking about whether the left chimp in ACP000dryv is Cassini again. There is not so much seen from his face, but the right hand is again turned strangely and unnaturally.

  Posted October 1, 2017 7:30 PM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000dryy He turns his head at the end of the series. Looks like Cassini's face, light rounded muzzle, fairly straight brow.

  

  Posted October 1, 2017 10:14 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  I agree, we have Cassini again 😃

  Thanks.

  Posted October 2, 2017 10:11 AM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000dr1k - found by @charly03 - Cassini again at the log.

  Posted October 12, 2017 7:20 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  thanks! and he is here too: ACP000dr1o and ACP000dsg4

  tagged 😃

  Posted October 13, 2017 7:27 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I think that ACP000dmpu is Cassini again. You can see the strangely turned right hand.

  

  Posted October 29, 2017 9:40 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000dsqb - found by @lauraklynn - might be Cassini again. You see the right hand freely dangling, when he is getting up.

  Posted October 29, 2017 2:00 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  ACP000dsqb : absolutely! you can see it clearly at sec.7

  Thanks Anja 😃

  Posted October 30, 2017 8:26 AM

• by lauraklynn moderator

  ACP000dqyw #Eliot is already tagged, but I just noticed this appears to be Cassini with him (note the bent right hand towards the end of the video).

  Posted November 7, 2017 12:41 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to lauraklynn's comment.

  yes! thanks Laura 😃

  Posted November 7, 2017 8:08 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000ds21 - is Cassini again. I can't seen much from his hand, but facial features are easily recognizable here.

  

  Posted November 8, 2017 5:24 PM

• by puddock

  With thanks to @lauraklynn for the heads up, I think this Image ACP000dqah might be Cassini - damaged right hand.

  Posted November 8, 2017 10:08 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  yes, I see his hand, and besides, this ACP000ds21 belongs to the Cassini´s sequence. Thanks!!

  Posted November 9, 2017 8:10 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to puddock's comment.

  Thanks @puddock!! yes, this is Cassini. It´s a great video, we get to see him closer and clearer 😃

  Posted November 9, 2017 8:14 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Since I just found another of this cool videos ACP000dr5w I think it's time to mention the Cassini clips in his thread as well 😃 ( ACP000dr5u discussed in the Petra thread)

  From ACP000dr5w

  

  from ACP000dr5u

  

  Posted November 10, 2017 11:57 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000dmpl - best portrait of Cassini yet: facial features and damaged hand are easily recognizable

  

  I am not sure who the other guy is, but I think I remember the whitish spot on the forehead. Will try to find him(?).

  

  Posted November 12, 2017 10:11 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  Thanks Heidi, Cassini is soooo cool!!

  Posted November 13, 2017 9:06 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  thanks Anja. I don´t remember any chimp in GS with that round white spot above his/her right brow 😕

  GSUNCLEAR07 😃

  Posted November 13, 2017 9:27 AM

• by lauraklynn moderator

  ACP000dmzo hand confirms Cassini again

  Posted November 17, 2017 10:48 PM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000ds63 - Cassini with turned under right hand.

  Posted November 18, 2017 6:36 PM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000dq4e - Cassini can be confirmed in

  ACP000dq4d - Light grey injured hand, pinkish under the eyes, long upper lip, light muzzle.

  

  Handsome formal portrait pose! Frontal face view. Nostrils are elongated oval shapes. light curving brows.

  

  Posted November 18, 2017 9:28 PM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Wow! really nice portraits with so much detail! 😄

  Posted November 19, 2017 2:59 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  awesome! it is great when we get to see them so close and with so much detail... thanks!

  (I will wait until ACP000dq4d is classified, but the other videos are tagged 😃 )

  Posted November 20, 2017 8:19 AM

• by lauraklynn moderator

  ACP000dsc0 our friend Cassini

  ACP000dr48 no hand to confirm, but I believe that's Cassini on the right

  Posted November 20, 2017 11:57 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to lauraklynn's comment.

  Thanks Laura!

  ACP000dsc0 : clearly Cassini,

  ACP000dr48 : not only Cassini, but also I would swear that the guy on the left is Eliot. This video was taken on 12/28/2012 , like the Eliot + Cassini series:

  Eliot (left) and Cassini (right) in ACP000dr48 :

  

  Eliot (right) and Cassini (left) in ACP000dsmv , confirmed :

  

  Posted November 21, 2017 7:26 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000drgy injured hand and light muzzle well seen

  Posted November 24, 2017 5:42 PM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000dre0 - @Boleyn just found Cassini again & he has the log all to himself!

  Posted November 27, 2017 8:34 PM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Oh yes, true, I should have noticed his hand, poor guy.

  Posted November 28, 2017 11:35 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  tagged 😃

  Posted November 29, 2017 8:55 AM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000drdy - @MingMing just found Cassini again. Confirmed in ACP000dre0

  Posted December 13, 2017 1:42 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  yesssss

  Posted December 13, 2017 6:19 AM

• by lauraklynn moderator

  Found by @tjilptjilp ACP000drhm Cassini and Bohr (I think)

  Posted December 22, 2017 6:06 PM

• by Snorticus

  (Cross posting) the friends Eliot & Cassini - ACP000dsmy - confirmed in ACP000dsn2

  Posted January 3, 2018 1:08 AM

• by puddock

  Think this is Cassini too ACP000dmpk and I guess that's Eliot with him 😃

  Posted January 7, 2018 10:10 AM

• by AnLand moderator in response to puddock's comment.

  Yes, to Cassini, but no to Eliot. That's Bohr on the left. Best seen trait here is the white spot above his right eyebrow.

  Posted January 7, 2018 12:40 PM

• by puddock

  Thanks @Anland 😃

  Posted January 7, 2018 8:14 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  Thanks guys!

  Posted January 11, 2018 8:07 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  @puddock thinks that the first chimp in ACP000dn8g is Cassini and I agree. 😃

  Posted January 11, 2018 7:49 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  ...so do I 😃

  Posted January 12, 2018 9:25 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Nuria would you please confirm Cassini here ACP000ds98 Thanks!

  Posted January 18, 2018 11:51 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  yesssss 😃

  Posted January 19, 2018 7:39 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I am not 100% sure about this proposal, but in ACP000dcu3 it seems to me that the right hand of the crossing male is injured like Cassini's. The grayish patron of his back would agree. Nothing more is seen unfortunately. Best seen in comparison to the knucklewalking of the other hand.

  

  Posted January 28, 2018 10:50 AM

• by Snorticus in response to AnLand's comment.

  Agree that this is Cassini with his characteristic walking on the top of the turned back injured hand and not the nuckles.

  Posted January 28, 2018 6:10 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  Absolutely Anja! good eye 😃

  Posted January 30, 2018 8:04 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  In this series Eliot is already confirmed. ACP000dr7l ACP000dr7m ACP000dr7o

  The other one must be Cassini. In ACP000dr7m we can see his damaged right hand. Better seen in video.

  

  Posted January 30, 2018 5:56 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  thanks!

  Posted January 31, 2018 7:45 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000dnad - the unidentified chimp here might be Cassini. See the strangely turned hand.

  Posted February 1, 2018 7:54 PM

• by lauraklynn moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Ooh good catch!

  Posted February 2, 2018 1:03 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  wow! I didn´t notice his hand! thanks Anja 😃

  now I see that Cassini was confirmed in the next videos of this series :S

  Posted February 2, 2018 7:16 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000ds9j - holding of the right hand suggest Cassini. Other traits fit.

  Posted February 10, 2018 5:30 PM

• by Snorticus in response to AnLand's comment.

  ACP000ds9l - also Cassini - in same sequence - if @NuriaM agrees 😉

  Posted February 10, 2018 7:58 PM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Cassini also in this video ACP000dmsr suggested by @Batfan His right hand is very well seen.

  The second one looks like Bohr.

  Posted February 11, 2018 5:06 PM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000dhkr - this nightchimp might be Cassini with his injured right hand. What do you think?

  Posted February 15, 2018 6:55 PM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Again Cassini in ACP000dr21 and ACP000dr22 found and suggested by @Snorticus. The one in the back might be Bohr. They have been confirmed there earlier the same morning.

  Posted February 19, 2018 11:33 AM

• by Snorticus

  ACP000dsnu - ACP000dsnw Looks like Cassini face with his injured hand here with Eliot.

  Posted February 23, 2018 1:09 AM

• by Boleyn moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  Thanks @Snorticus I tagged it already because it's in a confirmed sequence and I think (hope) Nuria does not mind 😃

  Posted February 23, 2018 12:26 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  not only I don´t mind, but I am also very thankful 😃

  great job girls!!

  Posted February 27, 2018 9:21 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Cassini and Bohr in videos ACP000dsib ACP000dsid ACP000dsih 8 minutes after confirmed sequence. However I'd like you, Nuria, to confirm. Thanks 😃

  Posted March 9, 2018 5:32 PM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000d0z8 - @Boleyn and I think these are Cassini (standing) and Bohr

  Posted March 10, 2018 5:23 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  Confirmed 😃

  Posted March 12, 2018 8:51 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Thanks Anja 😃

  Posted March 12, 2018 8:53 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Here are two more videos of Cassini waiting for confirmation. Thanks 😃
  ACP000dse4 and ACP000dse6

  Posted April 20, 2018 7:51 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  thanks Heidi 😃

  Posted April 20, 2018 8:25 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000d33f - the right hand is hard to see, but I think that this is Cassini.

  Posted May 4, 2018 6:54 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  I can see it 😃

  thanks!

  Posted May 7, 2018 8:06 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  More of Eliot and Cassini in ACP000dr3m (found by @Corcaroli) and in ACP000dr3o already suggested by Anja.

  Posted May 25, 2018 6:01 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  Yes, that´s Eliot, but not Cassini. Cassini´s right hand is super injured and this is not the case.

  According to the series, Cassini should be the one behind the log. The other has sort of a knot on his left brow that reminds me of Oden, what do you think?

  Oden in ACP000dtjz

  

  ACP000dr3o :

  

  but this is a very wild guess 😕

  Posted May 28, 2018 6:32 AM

• by Boleyn moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

  Oh yes, I see what you mean. We obviously both mistook him for Cassini because of the face and probably because his right hand seems to hang down a little. But it is intact, yes.

  Your guess is not so wild. It really might be Oden. It's just that the picture from video ACP000dtk0 you compare him with is a bit odd. There he looks quite roundish but when you look at the entire video we can see him also from the side and then he looks more like our friend above. Balding and brows fit, not sure about the nose though? We need more opinions 😃

  Posted May 28, 2018 5:56 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  thanks Heidi 😃

  more thoughts plz!!

  Posted May 29, 2018 10:53 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  The same trio here ACP000drh7 found by @hartel assumed Oden now on the ground.

  Posted May 29, 2018 11:40 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  I am going to give this guy a temp ID: GSMale24 , but I still believe in a match to Oden 😃

  Posted May 30, 2018 7:11 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  left Oden in ACP000dtdj , right GSMale24 in ACP000dr3o

  

  in both cases, their left brow seems to have a knot or a cut at the end, wide nostrils, nicely round ears, and darkened cheeks. What bothers me a bit is that GSMale24 has a round bald spot on his right wrist and Oden doesn´t, but this could be temporary 😕

  What do you guys think?

  Posted May 30, 2018 7:31 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Now this is a much better comparison. I wasn't looking too long for one but you found it!

  The brows itself also have the same shape and now I can see his long face. It's funny how the face looks round from the other perspective. The bald spot on the wrist occurs one month after the video on the left and thus could be new. No wonder from all this scratching...

  So I'm convinced now too that GSMale24 is Oden. 😉

  Posted May 30, 2018 12:32 PM

• by Snorticus in response to Boleyn's comment.

  Agree GSMale24 is Oden - he's such an itchy fellow 😃 with big nostrils! The left brow nick fits, dark cheek hollow, nicely rounded left ear.

  Posted May 30, 2018 9:15 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  Great!!

  Heidi, you are right about the wrist spot (I should have checked the dates :S )

  Thank you ladies!!

  Posted May 31, 2018 8:35 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  In ACP000dom6 ACP000dom8 ACP000doma and ACP000dom6 we can see two males having a quick drink. The first is Cassini, his right hand with injury is clearly visible.

  I'm not 100% sure about the second chimp. Size and color make me think Eliot but there's no face view.

  Posted July 8, 2018 4:24 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  Yes, he could be Eliot, context and body build, age fit. I can´t see his hand clearly, but It makes sense to me. Thoughts?

  (I tagged Cassini 😃 )

  Posted July 9, 2018 7:45 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  I think we have Cassini left (leaving) and Bohr still behind the log in ACP000dshg and ACP000dshj at 11:47 h.

  They are confirmed here 20 min. earlier and there's no more video in between. Additionally the one leaving obviously is injured and we can see that his right hand is bent inwards.

  Posted July 25, 2018 11:46 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  makes sense, thanks 😃

  Posted July 26, 2018 6:28 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Next up is Cassini, firstly at the left and then on the right. His injured right hand is shortly seen in the first video and his face best in the second clip in ACP000dsxa ACP000dsxb ACP000dsxc ACP000dsxd

  Posted July 26, 2018 12:49 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  I agree, thanks!

  Posted July 27, 2018 7:04 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000dtaw / ACP000dtax - looks like Cassini. Injured hand and light muzzle.

  Posted July 29, 2018 8:58 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  tagged

  Posted July 30, 2018 9:28 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I believe the last chimp in ACP000dkgr (also seen in ACP000dkgp) is Cassini. The right hand seems to be injured, body size and build, slightly grayish back etc. agree with his known traits.

  Posted August 27, 2018 12:59 PM

• by Boleyn moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  He's gait is somehow odd, the right shoulder deeper when he walks what would certainly be the fact with an injured hand like his. Voting yes for Cassini!

  Posted August 28, 2018 2:09 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Thank you ladies, Cassini fits 😃

  Posted August 29, 2018 10:46 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000dxa3 - based on the injured right hand: this is Cassini. The male before him in ACP000dxa2 might be Bohr, but I am not sure about this. ACP000dxa4: Eliot follows.

  Posted September 16, 2018 5:34 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Thanks Anja,

  agreed on Cassini and Eliot.

  I´m not sure about Bohr...could be, but could also be Paddy or Lonn 😕

  Posted September 17, 2018 7:27 AM

• by Boleyn moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

  I'm quite sure that this is Bohr in ACP000dxa2 because of his size and color.

  I think Bohr is a little bigger than Cassini. The first male is bigger than Cassini following him in ACP000dxa3 You can see it when you take some reference points where both walk along thus I think it can't be Paddy, because he's not a very big chimp, maximum size of Cassini and his back is entirely black. Lonn's back is brighter as Cassinis' but the back of the big male in ACP000dxa2 is darker than Cassini's back, so this is quite likely not Lonn. Do I make sense? 😛

  ...or 50 shades of grey in chimps backs 😃

  Posted September 17, 2018 2:57 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  ok, you got me...

  yes, I am convinced now, your reasoning makes sense to me: Bohr is correct 😃

  Thanks 😃

  Posted September 18, 2018 8:49 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  ACP000d3dt / ACP000d3e0 - first Cassini (injured hand), followed by Layla with infant and in the next clip (probably) Jana.

  Posted October 14, 2018 1:00 PM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Could this be Cassini in ACP000dx7w and ACP000dx7y ?

  I think the way he holds his right hand and the color of the back as well as the built looks much like Cassini.

  Posted October 14, 2018 5:12 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Agreed on ACP000d3dt / ACP000d3e0 = Cassini, Layla & GSInf25 and Jana

  Posted October 15, 2018 10:45 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

  ACP000dx7w and ACP000dx7y I see what you mean, he really seems to have an injured right hand.

  I need more opinions about this one.

  Could this guy be Cassini? ACP000dx7w :

  

  Posted October 15, 2018 10:53 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  Anja and I think this is Cassini in ACP000dmqr ACP000dmqr ACP000dmqr ACP000dmqr. Continues in ACP000dmos

  Face is best seen in second clip, and odd movement of hand in third. Not much seen in left clip but it's the next minutes so the same chimp.

  Posted February 7, 2019 5:57 PM

• by lauraklynn moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

  I'm not going to be much help here again. He does walk as though he has an injury and his body type resembles Cassini, but I don't see anything truly identifiable.

  Same thing for the ACP000dmqr sequence. Characterstics suggest Cassini, but I can't say it's him with any confidence.

  Posted February 8, 2019 1:21 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to lauraklynn's comment.

  thank you Laura, these are hard...

  Posted February 8, 2019 11:21 AM