Chimp & See Talk

Group 1 male parade

  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    @Batfan found the start of the sequence ACP000d0yo with some males of group one.

    Already identified in ACP000d0yq is Lonn. In ACP000d0ys follows Yakini and a juvenile which can also be seen in the last clip of the sequence ACP000d0yu

    I think the leading chimp must be Fouts - at least I have no other idea who else he could be. I see the long face, arched brows, balding and the bushy ellbows of Fouts, but he doesn't look shaggy at all here. Maybe because he's quite close and a bit blurry...

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    Then Yakini is quite clear with greyish hair, head shape and small brows:

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    The juvenile might be TChalla. I think the size fits, thin legs and his huge right ear can be seen even in full motion. He's been seen on other occasions with the males only.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

    yes, I agree on Yakini and TChalla.

    I have needed a bit of time to check the guy in ACP000d0yo . I had my doubts about Fouts for the reasons that you explain...he doesn´t look so shaggy and his shoulders look nicely "styled" 😄

    But look at Fouts in ACP000dm1q (left) and the guy in ACP000d0yo :

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    His right ear looks a bit bent at the top (like Fout´s), same face shape, hairy face sides...

    thoughts?

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    I'm more than ever voting for Fouts here but we need a third opinion 😃

    On another day we can see some of our friends heading in the other direction. Series: ACP000czet ACP000czeu ACP000czev ACP000czew

    I know it's a quick look and only his back is seen, but this greyish, bony back might belong to Fouts, but it's not enough proove I guess?

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    It gets better - at least a bit:
    Next following is Oden - here I'm pretty sure: hair in general brighter than the others, the "blond" neck and the size all indicate Oden.

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    Next video, next male. Here I think we have Yakini. He's really got a big belly and an impressive waistline. We can compare his back with a confirmed Yakini video. I think the pattern, espcially at the left waist, the black part around his butt and the white tufts right and left from it are the same:

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    The third video I think features our warrior Lonn. Almost same size as Yakini but a tad slimmer. In contrary to Yakini his testies are well seen because they hang lower as we can see in a confirmed clip:

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    Bringing up the rear of the procession is likely Bohr. Anja already suggested it in the comments and I agree. Big and massively built with dark hair - I only know one chimp of group one who looks like this.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator

    ACP000czet : not sure about Fouts walking first; he could also be Cassini 😕 . Second one walking: Oden (agreed).

    ACP000czeu : yes, Yakini

    ACP000czev : yes to Lonn

    ACP000czew : yes to Bohr

    so my only doubt here is the first one to be Fouts...

    thanks!

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

    You're right, Cassini would be another possibilty here. I was thinking about him too but then tended towards Fouts because I thought Cassini's back is more grey. But I'm really not sure.

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

    ok, let´s leave him unidentified...

    Cassini´s back looks a bit similar though.
    Have a look at Cassini in ACP000dkgr

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    and our first male in ACP000czet :

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    I am not suggesting that he is Cassini, as I find it too unclear, but what I mean is that a rear view could suggest more than one match 😉

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

    You're absolutely right, and I was never really sure myself, but thanks for checking!

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  • NuriaM by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

    no problem 😃

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  • HeikeW by HeikeW

    enter image description here ACP000d0yo

    I saw that you tagged Fouts here.To me it looks as if he had no left hand and he walks as if he wouldn´t use this arm?

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  • AnLand by AnLand moderator in response to HeikeW's comment.

    I watched this video over and over. Already my notes from months ago have "problem with left hand???" - but I am absolutely not sure. There might be something with the hand, or not. I am sure that it is Fouts. And I could not find a video from Fouts where I'd seen this problem, but maybe we can have another look and a possible time line, I agree.

    And I glad that you see it too!

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  • Boleyn by Boleyn moderator

    To me it looks quite normal, I mean when walking on the knuckles it's quite natural that the hand goes limb when the weight is taken of one hand and put on the other. When I compare to other males in that procession it looks the same, I think.

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  • HeikeW by HeikeW

    enter image description here ACP000d0yo

    Yes, you are right, now I can see his bent hand between his arm and leg. No more objection against Fouts.

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  • Snorticus by Snorticus in response to HeikeW's comment.

    ACP000d0yo - It looks like the bent under left hand is hidden behind plants at the bottom of the frame that snap back upright after Fouts passes. The hand is definitely hidden in the first frame - confusing.

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