Mother and juvenile

• by Boleyn moderator

  There's a pretty good look at their faces in the second clip ACP000dbsp. Any idea?

  Thanks!

  Posted March 23, 2019 12:14 PM

• by vittoriaestienne scientist, moderator

  Vivie + Yuri?

  Posted March 27, 2019 2:51 PM

• by AnLand moderator in response to vittoriaestienne's comment.

  Hm, that has already been discussed and I still think no.

  The other suggestion has been GSFem07 discussed here on page 4: https://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000v/discussions/DCP0001wk2 and there was a bit of an agreement ...

  Posted March 27, 2019 3:17 PM

• by AnLand moderator in response to vittoriaestienne's comment.

  You see only for ACP000dbsp - when they are closer - in what discussions we already talked about that video. It's a bit confusing.

  Posted March 27, 2019 3:21 PM

• by vittoriaestienne scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Yes, I based my guess on video ACP000dbsp.
  ACP000dbso is not really helpful .. 😃

  I'll check the discussion you mention above, thanks!

  Posted March 27, 2019 3:33 PM

• by vittoriaestienne scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  still, the female+offspring in this video ACP000dzp0 look very much like the ones in ACP000dbsp to me.

  ACP000dzp0 : whitish beard around adult female mouth; bald, triangular patch on infant's forehead

  https://static.zooniverse.org/www.chimpandsee.org/subjects/56b1e8458f753200018fc1af/previews/56b1e8458f753200018fc1af_5.jpg

  body adult female in ACP000dzp0

  https://static.zooniverse.org/www.chimpandsee.org/subjects/56b1e8458f753200018fc1af/previews/56b1e8458f753200018fc1af_9.jpg

  https://static.zooniverse.org/www.chimpandsee.org/subjects/56b1e8458f753200018fc1af/previews/56b1e8458f753200018fc1af_10.jpg

  body adult female in ACP000dbsp

  https://static.zooniverse.org/www.chimpandsee.org/subjects/56b1e0de8f753200018f48b4/previews/56b1e0de8f753200018f48b4_10.jpg

  infant in ACP000dbsp

  https://static.zooniverse.org/www.chimpandsee.org/subjects/56b1e0de8f753200018f48b4/previews/56b1e0de8f753200018f48b4_8.jpg

  Posted March 27, 2019 3:54 PM

• by AnLand moderator in response to vittoriaestienne's comment.

  I think her face is rounder than Vivie's and more important: Yuri has a severe injury at his hand and I do see a left hand (with fingers, Yuri doesn't have fingers) and no struggle for this juvenile.

  Just my opinion!

  Posted March 27, 2019 4:00 PM

• by Boleyn moderator in response to vittoriaestienne's comment.

  I was also discarding Vivie and Yuri because of the hand injury. Anja, have we seen it somewhere else or could it be, that Yuri just makes a fist in ACP000dzp0?

  btw, Vittoria, could you please use the little image icon above when posting a still picture, not the normale link icon? That would help 😃 Thanks!

  Posted March 27, 2019 5:54 PM

• by AnLand moderator

  We have quite some footage from his hand and in my opinion there is no chance that he is only making a fist everywhere. ACP000da7w is not the best footage, but there are no fingers, just a stump.

  Posted March 28, 2019 10:56 AM

• by Boleyn moderator

  ok, no match then unless somebody comes up with another suggestion 😃

  Posted April 1, 2019 5:11 PM

• by AnLand moderator

  Well, we still have this one open:

  The other suggestion has been GSFem07 discussed here on page 4: https://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000v/discussions/DCP0001wk2 and there was a bit of an agreement ...

  Posted April 1, 2019 5:39 PM

• by Boleyn moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Sorry, I couldn't tell then and I still can't now.

  Posted April 2, 2019 12:04 PM

• by vittoriaestienne scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

  Hi there!

  this is a very difficult match indeed.. in my opinion, the female in videos ACP000dbso and ACP000dbsp does not look similar to GSFem07 in ACP000cux8 (as I understood from the discussion you mentioned above, I assume GSFem07 is the second adult female passing by in ACP000cux8, the one looking at the camera). My impression is that GSFem07 in ACP000cux8 has a rather elongated face whereas the face of the female in ACP000dbsp looks more round. However, neither video provide a good, clear view of the individuals features, so it's really hard to say...

  Also for the juvenile in ACP000cux8, I do not feel confident in matching it with the one in videos ACP000dbso and ACP000dbsp . As it does not look directly to the camera is really hard to say if it is the same individual as in ACP000dbsp, even if the size matches.

  Posted April 8, 2019 1:37 PM

• by Buzharevski scientist, moderator

  Since there's no consensus and I can't really tell for sure also, I'll add new temp IDs. I give you GSFem43 and GSJuv19 😃

  Posted April 25, 2019 4:44 PM