Matching suggestion: MF7Juv19 and MF7Juv21

• by AnLand moderator

  Pro: quite big ears, somehow they look higher on the head (or it is just their angle), white spot on head (at MF7Juv19 best seen here: ACP0004tjc), brows. Contra: not sure about the nostrils: seem to be wider in MF7Juv19 - but maybe it's just the light. Female?

  

  

  Posted June 23, 2015 6:28 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  ok, added.

  Posted June 23, 2015 8:21 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  To far away for matching, but for notekeeping I want to post it here: ACP0004hio (only the dark face mask recognizable, maybe). Don't know how common it is in older juveniles.

  

  Posted June 28, 2015 7:09 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  yes, it´s too far away for matching...

  Chimpanzees faces vary in color as they grow...they are born with pale faces which darken with age, starting with a dark mask.

  Posted June 29, 2015 8:50 AM

• by Quia moderator

  I agree that MF7Juv19 and MF7Juv21 are a good match. Those ears are huge! The browline and face colours are also really nicely matched. Same primary hand, too, though that's definitely not confirmation by itself!

  Posted June 30, 2015 10:36 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  I agree too...although Juv21 has a small round bald on its head, which I can´t see in Juv19:

  

  but maybe we don´t get the right angle in Juv19 to see that bald?

  Posted June 30, 2015 10:58 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  But I can see the white spot even in your picture and it appears to me that it is the same as in MF7Juv21. It is still better seen in the video.

  

  ACP0004tjc

  

  ACP00045q9

  Posted June 30, 2015 3:54 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  you are right @AnLand, now I see the spot

  (sometimes you need a rest to see things clear 😉 )

  @Quia would you like to give us a name?

  Posted July 1, 2015 8:19 AM

• by Quia moderator

  It's a female, right? Rear view, ACP0004tjb, which I think shows 'she' is still not sexually mature because it's larger, but white? In any case, I don't see any testicles.

  I'm honestly surprised we don't have a Jane yet.

  Posted July 1, 2015 10:40 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  we MUST have a JANE!!!!!

  Thanks @Quia 😉

  Posted July 1, 2015 10:48 AM

• by AnLand moderator

  I know, this site is not open for matching suggestions, but I have been looking for something and see similarities between Jane and MF7Juv29. The white spot on her head is barely seen. Best at 4 sec. in ACP0004egy. But the all have a sloping left eyebrow (or a small scar?), a darker eye mask and lighter muzzle. The left ear looks a bit boxy. General body build (age) seems to fit. ACP0004egy and ACP0004egz

  I would also like to know what kind of vocalization the juvenile does towards(?) the female in ACP0004egy

  Sloping left eyebrow

  

  "Boxy" (rectangular) left ear

  

  For comparison: Jane from ACP0004tjb

  

  Posted February 5, 2016 2:26 PM

• by Snorticus

  Hope we can save this too though we are not doing MF7 right now - this looks to be a match to me also.

  Underbite - Lower jaws stick out on both, lots of upper eyelid seen giving a "sleepy" appearance, brows very curved, left with a nick, the body of the antihelix ridge in the ear is very prominant & catches the light in both clips, they both still have large white tail tufts.

  Posted February 5, 2016 4:42 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator

  Agreed,

  all traits fit, thanks!!

  Posted April 26, 2016 7:16 AM