Identifiable chimps at Dry Lake

by NuriaM scientist, moderator

Hi everyone,

@Linda_Habanera and I have been checking the chimp video list of Dry Lake and we have come up with a list of videos containing chimps that we agreed that could be identifiable but haven been yet.

We would like to discuss with you about the possibility of those chimps being "new" or a match to any of the known or prospective chimps in the PROSPECTIVE / KNOWN CHIMPS list.

Below the list (73 videos in total); some are single 15 sec. videos, but we have some sequences too; you can see it from the sequence number beside the video code: an example of an entire sequence would be: 0015_0 / 0015_15 / 0015_30 / 0015_45.

Each video is accompanied by number of identifiable chimps (in brackets).

If you would like to put your 2 cents on any of the videos below, just open a new thread specifying the video code you want to discuss about and your guess. You can also add a link to any other old thread that might be relevant.

THANKS A MILLION FOR YOUR AMAZING HELP!!!!!!

1 ACP00064oq 0015_0 (2): DL11Female50 & DL11Infant40

2 ACP00064or 0015_15 (2): DL11Female50 & DL11Infant40

3 ACP00064qa 0011_0 (2): DL11Female41 & DL11Infant32

4 ACP00064qb 0011_15 (2): DL11Female41 & DL11Infant32

5 ACP0006lgq 0019_0 (2): DL11Female42 & DL11Infant33

6 ACP0006lgr 0019_15 (3): DL11Female42 & DL11Infant33, DL11Juv30

7 ACP0006lgs 0019_30 (3): DL11Female42 & DL11Infant33, DL11Juv30

8 ACP0006lgt 0019_45 (3): DL11Female42 & DL11Infant33, DL11Juv30

9 ACP0006m8z 0034_0 (1): DL11Juv31

10 ACP0006nv2 0125_0 (1): DL11Male13

11 ACP0006nv4 0125_15 (1): DL11Male13

12 ACP0006nv6 0125_30 (1): DL11Male13

13 ACP0006nv7 0125_45 (1): DL11Male13

14 ACP0006ova 0078_0 (1): DL11Juv32

15 ACP0006rax 0007_45 (1): **Kibu?

16 ACP0006rny 0032_0 (1)

17 ACP0006rnz 0032_15 (2)

18 ACP0006t4h 0078_45 (1): DL11Juv33

19 ACP0006v7d 0051_15 (1): DL11Male14

20 ACP0006v7e 0051_30 (1): DL11Male14

21 ACP0006v7f 0051_45 (1): DL11Male14

22 ACP00071ba 0329_0 (2): DL11Female43 & DL11Infant34

23 ACP00071py 0073_0 (2): DL11Female44 & DL11Infant35

24 ACP00071pz 0073_15 (2): DL11Female44 & DL11Infant35

25 ACP00071pa 0074_0 (1): DL11Infant36

26 ACP00071pb 0074_15 (1): DL11Infant36

27 ACP00071pc 0074_30 (1): DL11Infant36

28 ACP00071pd 0074_45 (1): DL11Infant36

29 ACP00071pe 0075_0 (1): DL11Infant36

30 ACP00071pf 0075_15 (1): DL11Infant36

31 ACP00071pg 0075_30 (1): DL11Infant36

32 ACP00071ph 0075_45 (1): DL11Infant36

33 ACP00071q2 0076_0 (1): DL11Infant36

34 ACP00071q3 0076_15 (1): DL11Infant36

35 ACP00071q4 0076_30 (1): DL11Infant36

36 ACP00071q5 0076_45 (1): DL11Infant36

37 ACP00071qu 0077_0 (1): DL11Infant36

38 ACP00071qv 0077_15 (1): DL11Infant36

39 ACP00071qw 0077_30 (1): DL11Infant36

40 ACP00071qx 0077_45 (1): DL11Infant36

41 ACP00071qy 0078_0 (1): DL11Infant36

42 ACP00071qz 0078_15 (1): DL11Infant36

43 ACP00071r0 0078_30 (1): DL11Infant36

44 ACP00071r1 0078_45 (1): DL11Infant36

45 ACP00071qq 0079_0 (1): DL11Infant36

46 ACP00071qr 0079_15 (1): DL11Infant36

47 ACP00071qs 0079_30 (1): DL11Infant36

48 ACP00071qt 0079_45 (1): DL11Infant36

49 ACP00071qm 0080_0 (1): DL11Infant36

50 ACP00071qn 0080_15 (1): DL11Infant36

51 ACP00071qo 0080_30 (1): DL11Infant36

52 ACP00071qp 0080_45 (1): DL11Infant36

53 ACP00071qi 0081_0 (1): DL11Infant36

54 ACP00071qj 0081_15 (1): DL11Infant36

55 ACP00071qk 0081_30 (1): DL11Infant36

56 ACP00071q7 0082_15 (1): DL11Infant36

57 ACP00071q8 0082_30 (1): DL11Infant36

58 ACP00071q9 0082_45 (1): DL11Infant36

59 ACP00072fj 0006_45 . All chimps identified

60 ACP00072di 0023_30 (2) / ACP00072dj 0023_45 (2): DL11Female45 & DL11Infant37

61 ACP00072k9 0009_0 (1): DL11Male15

62 ACP00072kb 0009_15 (1): DL11Male15

63 ACP00072ra 0020_0 (1): DL11Male16

64 ACP00072wj 0006_15 (1): DL11Female46

65 ACP00077qj 0024_0 (2): DL11Female47 & DL11Infant38

66 ACP00077qk 0024_15 (2): DL11Female47 & DL11Infant38 / DL11Female48

67 ACP00077ql 0024_30 (2): DL11Female47 & DL11Infant38 / DL11Female48

68 ACP00077qm 0024_45 (2): DL11Female47 & DL11Infant38 / DL11Female48

69 ACP00077qz 0035_0 (1): DL11UNCLEAR02

70 ACP00079sl 0014_0 (1): DL11Male17

71 ACP0007a94 0004_0 (4): DL11Juv34 , DL11Female49 & DL11Infant39

Posted August 4, 2017 9:57 AM
by AnLand moderator

In ACP0006v9u and ACP0006v9v - there is a some movement and in my opinion a bit of chimp behind the termite mound seen (right of the juvenile). It seems to be a very small individual and as we identified the female as Aisha, it should be her infant Ajali.

I tagged at the moment only #3_chimp and left everything open for discussion. (I can remove that as well if we decide that there is nobody.)

Posted October 7, 2017 5:29 PM
by Boleyn moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

I think you're right @Anja, given the fact that Aisha is very protective with Ajali it's very unlikely that s/he should not be somewhere close. The movement can be seen in several videos so yes, I support that idea.

Other than that, the juvenile in these videos is most likely Shadow, Aisha's older offspring. Shadow is confirmed in the videos taken 8 minutes earlier at the same place ( ACP0006vao - ACP0006vbb ). I think, Aisha left Ajali there with Shadow while she went away and comes back in ACP0006v9u.

Posted October 8, 2017 1:31 PM
by AnLand moderator in response to Boleyn's comment.

Yes, in general I agree with you - but there is a eight minute difference and apparently they decided to not make this assumptions. The female and her in infant in the first part are not confirmed as Aisha and Ajali, but Shadow is; and in the remaining sequence Aisha is confirmed, but not Shadow. The small infant just has been missed, I guess.

I also think, it's the same family over time and all traits fit, but I can also understand to be careful here because of the time gap.

Posted October 8, 2017 1:43 PM
by AnLand moderator

As it was - unfortunately - ruled out that the second juvenile in ACP00072fg is Juv15 (Crispin), this juvenile needs a temp ID now.

Posted October 23, 2017 7:13 PM
by AnLand moderator

For this entry:

59 ACP00072fj 0006_45 (2)

I am not sure whom you consider here identifiable. There are no new chimps and the other infant and the chimp barely seen in the back (probably the second infant's mom) are already in the videos before. The other identities are #DLFemale7 with #DL11Infant6, #DLJuv14 and #DLJuv15 (Crispin)

Posted October 23, 2017 7:17 PM
by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

Thanks Anja: DL11Juv29. Do we still need a name for DL11Juv14 and the juv in ACP00077ok ?? see: https://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000o/discussions/DCP0001us6 , last page 😮

Posted October 24, 2017 10:36 AM
by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

yes, you are right, in ACP00072fj all the chimps are identified. Thanks 😃

Posted October 24, 2017 10:42 AM
by AnLand moderator in response to NuriaM's comment.

Yes, I know that we still need a name. But I already named Crispin and thought you would ask somebody else, no?

I also wanted to ask whether you could look into this new discussion for Dry Lake: https://talk.chimpandsee.org/#/boards/BCP000000o/discussions/DCP00021pi . Thanks!

Posted October 25, 2017 6:07 PM
by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

Yes, I know that you named Crispin, I was just no sure if we still need a name for DL11Juv14. Thanks.

Posted October 26, 2017 7:20 AM
by AnLand moderator

ACP00072dj should be added to the identifiable chimps list at Dry Lake as these are the same individuals (female with infant) as in ACP00072di. That means, it belongs to this entry:

60 ACP00072di 0023_30 (2)

Posted October 28, 2017 11:06 AM
by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to AnLand's comment.

added. Thanks 😃

Posted October 30, 2017 10:56 AM