Older lone juvenile

• by Snorticus

  Proposing a match between DL11Juv23 and DL11Juv12. Juveniles are hard to match as they're so similar but here is what I think:

  ACP000732a DL11Juv23 Poor quality clip but s/he has pale slightly curved brows, dark eye mask that curves down around the round protruding pale muzzle, small knob of a nose with nostrils that angle up, pale large round ears that sit somewhat far back on the head, a pointed triangular tail tuft, fluffy side burns, slim legs, rounded belly with dark black fur.

  

  

  ACP0006vao DL11Juv12 Is much better seen but I think s/he has similar features to those that I listed above for DLJuv23.

  

  Posted December 16, 2015 10:00 PM

• by AnLand moderator

  Hi, this is not easy and I am still not sure, what I am thinking. I just want to say that I noted for Juv12 as one trait the more even, lighter face coloration - in contrast to other juveniles here like Juv2 or Piki that have this dark eye mask. I am not sure whether I see this with Juv23 as s/he looks down and there is a shadow on the face. But it does not look that dark, I agree.

  Juv12 looks a bit bigger, but here the camera angle might be responsible as Juv23 is directly under it. I will think about it.

  Posted December 17, 2015 6:07 AM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  Hmmm...not bad 😕

  

  I agree with @AnLand about the size, but I guess too that it´s an angle issue. Face pigmentation looks similar too. Their left inner arm hair direcrtion would fit too (althought this is usually no conclusive trait for my taste).

  I think we should be devoting some time to these two guys 😃

  Posted December 17, 2015 6:29 AM

• by Snorticus

  All I want for Christmas is some higher-def chimp clips. 😦 The brow on Juv23 I think, (though I had attributed it to low def. pixel issues and camera angle) doesn't match the dip in the middle that is seen on Juv12, sigh...

  Posted December 18, 2015 4:15 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  really? look at the sec.6 in Juv23 video...I get no nice shots of it, but I think there is a dip too 😕

  All I want for Christmas is a match!! 😄

  Posted December 21, 2015 5:34 AM

• by Snorticus

  Lol, NuriaM!

  Posted December 21, 2015 5:39 PM

• by NuriaM scientist, moderator in response to Snorticus's comment.

  8D

  Posted December 22, 2015 5:23 AM